It trains you to think very methodically and logically (particularly in proof based courses) which are necessary to be a good programmer. For those double majoring in Engineering and a Science, I congratulate you for your immense ability to pull off such feat. A2A. I have a BS CS and a BA Math, and I'm currently going for my MS CS. CSCI-UA.0102 Data Structures (Fall / Spring) prerequisite: CSCI-UA.0101 3. These majors also work in biotechnology, national security, market research, astronomy and space exploration. We share and discuss any content that computer scientists find interesting. My only concern is the large amount of additional debt ill be taking on and if I'll be able to find a job quicker and more pertinent to my degree's then I did after I graduated with just my math degree. Computer science majors, on average, were hired at $71,500, while the high salary for that major was $102,000. Technical Minor: A math minor consists of Calc I –IV, Linear Algebra (640:250), and three upper level (300 or above) math courses. Getting a broader perspective? I think math has helped a lot in my day job as a software engineer. Indeed, CS seemed pretty easy compared to my math degree. I would recommend taking some pure math courses alongside your CS ones as electives, even if you don't commit to the full major (math and CS both require a lot of effort). CSCI-UA.0101 Introduction to Computer Science (Fall / Spring) prerequisite: CSCI-UA.0002 or CSCI-UA.0003 or placement exam 2. Not all of them emerge sane hah. Theoretical CS is basically math, and cryptography is based on algebra and number theory, so there can be considerable overlap between CS and math. A2A. Computer Science interacts closely with mathematics in several ways, which go far beyond the topics in discrete mathematics which all Computer Science majors learn. You must use axioms (built in keywords and structures) and other proven theorems (other well tested functions that have been shown to always work) together to build towards the result you are trying to prove (or the goal your function tries to achieve). Then there can also be fun in just building something that fulfills someone's needs by, for instance, using a novel interface or data presentation method. Choosing a computer science emphasis with your statistics degree as required in your program will make you more employable though (the same could also be true for the applied math program, depending on how the program is structured). CS majors that aren't very good/learned in math will still find jobs, but they are typically very boring jobs. no pun intended. So, a student in the ME dept is already required to take Calc I – IV and Calc V. If (s)he took 640:250 and another math course to fulfill the two technical ele… Employers want people who are smart and grounded in their field. What are your thoughts on getting a bachelors in Math then a masters in CS? Student must also have earned an overall GPA of 3.4 or higher (as required by LSA for Honors), and must have a final major GPA in Computer Science of 3.5 or higher. I didn't complete my degree, but I sure as hell didn't learn how to code in school. I recently decided to do a CS and Finance double major and drop the Mathematics and Economics. When I considered changing majors to computer science at one point, when I inquired I found out that I would be unable to transfer credits from my science classes it was a no-go. To declare the computer sciences major, students must meet the following requirements: Completion of COMP SCI 300 and either MATH 222 or MATH 276; Grade of BC or higher in one of these introductory programming courses, taken at UW-Madison: COMP SCI 300, COMP SCI/ E C E 354 or COMP SCI 400 2.250 GPA or higher among the first completed attempts of these … As a math major, you've decided to pursue mathematics as your academic focus, and before you graduate, it's important to know which career path you want to pursue. I don't think that's necessarily true. You don't have to double major. Is it worth it to double major in math and computer science? Computer Science interacts closely with mathematics in several ways, which go far beyond the topics in discrete mathematics which all Computer Science majors learn. Furthermore they also claim people who go into software engineering with a strong math background will tend to be stronger programmers than people who worked on CS alone. This may make it an approachable task. Super easy to digest even though presented in a clunky fashion. As someone working in a multidisciplinary research lab, we get maths undergrads from top universities whose code simply ends being binned due to being both inefficient and unreadable. Economics and Math/Political Science/Engineering. The amount of parallels that exist between formal proofs and well written software is insane. For example, mathematical proofwriting really didn't help me out in algorithms, because the proofs presented in that course were completely unintuitive/sloppy coming from a formal mathematical background. Before I dive into the reasons to double major, let me briefly touch upon the 2 majors I think every college student should pursue. However, well-prepared students wishing to earn a double major are encouraged to take MATH 574, which will be counted in lieu of MATH 374 for the Computer Science degree. That being said, just a math degree will enable you to do more than just a CS degree. Core Requirements (7) 1. The Mathematics and Computer Science double major provides a scientific and practical approach to computation and its applications. This track offers students the opportunity to study the theory, experimentation and engineering that form the basis of the design and use of today’s computers. Judging by the comments in this thread though, a lot of you seem to suffer from an inferiority complex. Hello, I am a physics undergraduate, currently in my junior year. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.reddit.com/r/math/comments/2wo3hj/how_beneficial_is_double_majoring_in_computer/. That said CS would have made it easier for you to pick up R. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. If both majors are in the same college, the student must complete all department/curricular requirements for each major. Many of today's graduates pick CS because they want to jump into a nice salary. I love the perspective my Math B.Sc. Double majoring in physics and computer science is hard, but it definitely has it’s benefits. By looking through millions of job listings and 2,895 mathematics and computer science major resumes, we were able to discover which are the preferred jobs for mathematics and computer science majors. The topic made me strongly consider , dual majoring in math. Consider matching the Masters in CS with an MBA or a JD. DECLARATION REQUIREMENTS. CS majors that aren't very good/learned in math will still find jobs, but they are typically very boring jobs. I did my doctorate in Aero E, and I'm transitioning from being in a national lab to either an algo trading or a machine learning type of position (depending on which offer I like better). There are people there who claim that CS courses became trivial after having majored in math. For those double majoring in Engineering and a Science, I congratulate you for your immense ability to pull off such feat. Computer Science Theory and Application. Cookies help us deliver our Services. But for those with a mathematics and computer science major, career opportunities tend to be plentiful. The day and the life of the average software developer looks much like this, though: 30% validating, packaging, and deploying software, 40% communicating (instant message, email, face to face, meetings). Doing both will open up a lot of doors for you. That said, if you like computer science as well as math, you sort of might as well. I've found that my math degree helps a lot with my theoretical classes (I'm interested in Programming Languages/Formal Methods), and it's very, very easy to understand the theory taught in those classes when the proofs are all ones you've seen but in different forms. Economics is a smart choice as a second major because it prepares students to apply the skills from their first major to … Choosing a computer science emphasis with your statistics degree as required in your program will make you more employable though (the same could also be true for the applied math program, depending on how the program is structured). Within the applied CS world, there are plenty of optimizations (with respect to runtime) you can make via math that pure CS people might not see. Press J to jump to the feed. Also equally strangely, self-taught individuals seem to excel at software development over those trained. Edit: also aero engs, and physics folk with solid programming chops. That said, if you like computer science as well as math, you sort of might as well. Kick that Math degree to the curb. I feel far more creative and less like a labourer. So it can only help knowing some math so that the ideas at least make sense at some level. Double majors are normally awarded within the same school or department. Have some gold :) Totally agree with this. (As an aside OP, psychology might also be a useful thing to study as minor for a CS degree, though I see people below suggesting it as well). Economics and Math/Political Science/Engineering. If you major in cs and minor in math you're still golden. https://www.reddit.com/r/math/comments/2wo3hj/how_beneficial_is_double_majoring_in_computer/? There are hundreds of thousands of CS jobs around while the math jobs are severely lacking in number and pay, and although some might take math majors, the majority want either CS or CompEng. I was a double major in math and computer science. This is certainly true with many of the greats in math history. People from all walks of life welcome, including hackers, hobbyists, professionals, and academics. Even us peasant engineers sometimes cross the boundary. We don't do the minor/major system in Norway, but if I had to chose I'd do something different for a minor like mechanical engineering to focus on robotics. for the degree of Bachelor of Science in Liberal Arts and Sciences: Major in Mathematics & Computer Science. This will be lucrative and will expand your math knowledge. Major 1 : A major that you are passionate about. I am in the process of teaching myself R. CS wouldn't have taught you R anyways. I graduated with a bachelors in Math two years ago and I am now an Accounting Assistant even though it's not really what I wanted to do but just the first place to offer me something after a year of searching. As far as going the other way around (i.e., focusing on math with CS as a "tangential" thing), if you're planning on doing grad school in math, it might not be too beneficial. So, yeah, dual majoring would definitely help there. Now however, I want to go back part time to get a degree in CS. Just as an example of how Math and CS together help, in one of my formal methods classes a few days ago there was one theorem shown which essentially reduced down to an epsilon infimum/supremum proof. Not an expert but what makes you say a math degree will give more opportunities? A student pursuing a double major must complete all university and college requirements. The curriculum at the time was built w/ prerequisites in such a way that you pretty much had to follow a 4 year plan from day one to graduate on time, which was important. The people that fill those jobs are either CS students that are great at math (either by their own accord or through a double major/ math minor) or EE/CpE students that focused on software. The Departments of Computer Science and Economics permit double majors to use courses in the corresponding concentrations to satisfy the requirements of both majors. A2A. Double Major Information Undergraduate Double Majors. Furthermore, 48 percent of computer science majors had a double major, which is 113 out of 235 students. https://www.reddit.com/r/math/comments/2wo3hj/how_beneficial_is_double_majoring_in_computer/? What can I do with just a bachelors in CS? In this vein, CS + Math > CS alone if you want to go to grad school for CS. It depends on your goals. Computer Science majors are required to take MATH 374 (discrete structures), and it is possible to earn credit for both MATH 374 and MATH 574. Unfortunately, the 10% is also pretty damn hard. Im very late to the party but if you still exist, could you tell me how the job market differed after you got the CS degree. To add to this, part of the reason a lot of mathematicians make good programmers is the way math makes you think. Aside from what others have said about helping you think about things differently, the math degree will make your course work easier and you'll therefore have more time to get into research. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Math: Linear Algebra Discrete Math Calculus I-III Diff. Neither of which are necessarily technically challenging, but lean to requiring a more social/psychological take on things. Math just eats people up and spits them out. Beneficial for what? Only after a student has taken several AMS courses should he or she decide on Applied Math as a second major. There are more things in the world that are interesting than just maths and different people will like different things. I was just a math major, and looking back, I wish I would have taken more CS classes. Mathematics - Computer Science Webpage Transfer to Mathematics - Computer Science. Also web development is typically pretty tedious, though there are exceptions. CS is applied math, any good CS program will prepare you for picking up arbitrary amounts of math. Many engineering majors have math courses in their technical elective list. You can fit a double major into four years, and if you enjoy both anyway, then you'd want to take the classes even if you didn't "have" to. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Of the eight upper level courses in Mathematics required for the major, then, two (526 and 574) can be used to satisfy requirements already present in the Computer Science curriculum, and three would normally be used … For the n-th time, this is actually a very good combo, as advanced computer science is inherently very mathematical (computer science is an offspring of mathematics in a way, the other "parent" I guess would be engineering, particularly electrical, to make computer more than abstract objects...), and I know a number of computer scientists who are way better mathematicians than I am. (Multiple majors cannot be declared across colleges. MATH-UA.0… Some of the best students in the department are double majors in computer science, engineering, physics, or statistics. Replies to: Double Major in Math and Computer Science #1. ucbalumnus 85292 replies 760 threads Senior Member. Most CS graduates are trained for the first 10%, lack skills for the planning and thinking 20%, have had trouble with team projects in the 40%, and have likely never done any of the 30% devops. Certainly possible at many schools. I came across this topic while searching "computer science" in the r/math subreddit. CSCI-UA.0202 Operating Systems (Fall / Spring) prerequisite: CSCI-UA.0201 5. This is the kind of idea that seems ludicrous to me at best. Why would you kick the math degree to the curb? You will put in long hours in the lab analyzing data and compiling reports, take the toughest classes in math and the sciences, and just generally work hard for your degree. Let me introduce you to Electrical Computer Engineering!!! Why is there so much career flexibility as a math major? What they're skipping is that just majoring in math isn't going to teach you programming. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. The problem with this question is that "beneficial" is a very imprecise word. In the course of fulfilling the degree requirements, LAS students may complete the minimum requirements for a second program of study in LAS. More than anything, math helped me to think deliberately, which made courses like data structures easier. The Mechanical Engineering curriculum has 2 technical elective requirements. Understanding the math? Many of the courses may overlap (more in some schools than in others). Personally I think I've gotten enough math after doing things like compiler design, AI and learning functional programming. Very ironic you created this thread. See Curry-Howard Correspondence. Purdue admits to individual majors. Linear algebra comes in handy in graphics. Currently, I am a rising sophomore pursuing and Computer Science and Mathematics double major with a minor is Economics at Virginia Tech. Being more marketable for industry? Double Major with Computer Science Beyond the mathematics courses required for the CSE major, a double major with AMS requires a course in multivariable calculus, AMS 261 or MAT 203, and five additional upper-division AMS courses, besides AMS 301 and 310. MATHEMATICS DOUBLE MAJOR FOR COMPUTER SCIENCE STUDENTS. Major: Mathematics and Computer Science Students in this major study either a combination of math and computer science or a single, specialized field that … I majored in math, and followed it up with another degree in CS. BTW, isn't it possible for you to double-major in applied math and statistics? I've been writing software for about 20 years. Finance/Computer Science v. Finance/Economics Double Major (Originally Posted: 04/26/2012) For a while now I have been wanting to broaden my horizons and pick up a double a major. Strangely, many of the largest companies in silicon valley test for the top 1% of CS candidates and forget that most of the job is not about solving O(n) problems with cool new data structures. People have been telling me that math and computer science are similar, and that math prepares you for CS. If you're very interested in math go for it. Students wishing to complete an Honors major in Computer Science must have earned a 3.2 or higher GPA in the four required pre-courses for the major (MATH 115, 116, EECS 203 and 280). ... presumably in high school and middle school teaching math or science… It's never new or exciting. There are people there who claim that CS courses became trivial after having majored in math. Another popular combination from the list above is a combination of economics with math, political science or engineering. I came across this topic while searching "computer science" in the r/math subreddit. First Year Orientation; Transfer Orientation; All incoming students are required to watch the orientation video above before requesting an advising appointment. Discrete math is useful for theory-heavy courses like automata. I've had jobs in a variety of domains/industries/sectors. But in the end, you will likely earn top dollar. I think proofs, linear algebra, and differential equations are the most useful. Some do not. As a basic example of stuff not just anyone can do is isn't really maths related and is hard/interesting is optimising some piece of infrastructure mercilessly for your server architecture. Some people are just naturally gifted at programming and the thought processes come quite naturally for them, even without extensive training. On the other hand, CS grads from top universities can architect reliable software that's both efficient and well-documented. Transfer students must meet Purdue's overall transfer criteria, as well as any major-specific requirements.Before you apply, check the closed programs page to confirm this major is open to transfer students. Some CS courses become much easier. The Bachelor of Science with a Major in Mathematics and Computer Science is designed for students who seek careers in computer science and/or computer related fields requiring a strong mathematical background. The most interesting and fun programming jobs require math. CSCI-UA.0201 Computer Systems Organization (Fall / Spring) prerequisite: CSCI-UA.0102 4. I understand the first two, but why diff eq? The program is flexible and provides the students with a well-rounded education. If you plan on going into industry, it'll help immensely. Many math majors go on to careers in patent law, software engineering, data science, financial analysis and economics. CSCI-UA.0310 Basic Algorithms (Fall / Spring) prerequisite: CSCI-UA.0102 and MATH-UA.0120 6. Consider going for a PhD in CS and then moving into Data Science. That's not a coincidence either. Would also like to say, as a PhD in computer science and a professor - I really really wish I had double majored in math. The College of Liberal Arts & Sciences offers several vehicles through which students may pursue multiple majors, including double majors and dual degrees. Furthermore they also claim people who go into software engineering with a strong math background will tend to be stronger programmers than people who worked on CS alone. A double major, or dual major, is the act of pursuing two majors, with both typically falling under the same degree. Graph theory is useful for networking and distributed systems. 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